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Greene County

North Point and Badman's Cave Loop

Moderate

4.9

(5262)

8,004

hikers

North Point and Badman's Cave Loop

02:26

8.25km

240m

Hiking

Embark on the North Point and Badman's Cave Loop, a moderate 5.1-mile (8.3 km) hike that promises diverse terrain and rewarding views. You will navigate through varied landscapes, from gentle slopes to rocky sections and steep climbs, including many rock stairs on the Escarpment Trail. The route features beautiful deciduous…

Last updated: April 23, 2026

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1

3.66 km

North Point

Highlight • Viewpoint

This lookout offers an awesome vantage point, but be prepared for some light scrambling at the approach.

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2

4.93 km

Badmans Cave Shelter

Highlight • Cave

Rumor has it that this location served as a hideout for bandits in the area, earning it the name Badmans Cave. Although it's not technically a cave but more of …

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6.23 km

Ashley Falls

Waterfall

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8.25 km

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Way Types & Surfaces

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3.78 km

2.64 km

1.66 km

168 m

Surfaces

3.81 km

2.63 km

1.71 km

< 100 m

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Highest point (880 m)

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Frequently Asked Questions

How long does it typically take to complete the North Point and Badman's Cave Loop?

The North Point and Badman's Cave Loop is a moderate hike that generally takes around 2 hours and 26 minutes to complete. However, this can vary depending on your pace, stops for photos, and how much time you spend enjoying the views.

What is the terrain like on the North Point and Badman's Cave Loop?

Hikers can expect a diverse terrain on this loop. It includes gentle slopes, but also muddy and rocky areas, and some steep sections with rock scrambles and ledges. The climb on the Escarpment Trail, which is part of the loop, features many rock stairs. Appropriate footwear is highly recommended due to potentially muddy sections.

What are the main highlights and viewpoints along the route?

The trail is rich with stunning views and unique features. You'll find panoramic overlooks like North Point, offering epic views of the Hudson Valley and Catskill peaks. Other notable viewpoints include Artist's Rock, Sunset Rock, and Newman's Ledge. You can also explore Badmans Cave Shelter, a fascinating rock overhang, and enjoy the cascades at Mary's Glen.

Is the North Point and Badman's Cave Loop suitable for beginners?

While rated as moderate, the trail does have challenging sections with steep climbs, rock scrambles, and ledges. It's considered one of the more accessible moderate day hikes in the Catskill Park, but beginners should be prepared for varied terrain and some strenuous parts. It's not overly technical, but good physical condition and appropriate gear are advisable.

Does the North Point and Badman's Cave Loop connect with other trails?

Yes, this route utilizes sections of several other well-known paths. You'll hike along parts of the Rock Shelter Trail, Mary's Glen Trail, Escarpment Trail, North Lake South Lake Trail, and the Long Path.

What is the best time of year to hike the North Point and Badman's Cave Loop?

The trail offers beauty in all seasons, but spring and fall are particularly popular for comfortable temperatures and vibrant foliage. Summer can be warm, and winter hiking is possible but requires proper gear for snow and ice. Due to its popularity, especially on weekends, consider hiking during weekdays or early mornings to avoid crowds.

Where can I park for the North Point and Badman's Cave Loop?

The trail is located near the North-South Lake Campground. Parking is typically available at designated lots in the vicinity of the campground. It's a popular area, so parking lots can fill up quickly, especially on weekends and during peak season. Arriving early is often recommended.

Are there any permits or fees required to hike in the Catskill Forest Preserve?

While there isn't a specific permit required for hiking the North Point and Badman's Cave Loop itself, the trail is located within the Catskill Forest Preserve. There may be day-use fees or parking fees associated with accessing certain areas, particularly around the North-South Lake Campground during peak season. It's always best to check the latest regulations with the New York State Department of Environmental Conservation (DEC) before your visit.

Is the North Point and Badman's Cave Loop dog-friendly?

Yes, dogs are generally allowed on this trail. However, they must be kept on a leash at all times. Given the varied terrain, including rocky sections and potential mud, ensure your dog is capable of handling the hike and that you bring enough water for both of you.

What should I bring for a hike on this trail?

For this moderate loop, essential items include sturdy hiking boots (preferably waterproof for muddy sections), plenty of water, snacks, a map or GPS device (like komoot's app), and appropriate layers of clothing for changing weather. Trekking poles can be helpful for the steep and rocky sections. Don't forget a camera for the incredible views!

What's an insider tip for hiking the North Point and Badman's Cave Loop?

This trail is incredibly popular, especially on weekends. To fully enjoy the stunning vistas and unique features like North Point and Badmans Cave Shelter without the crowds, consider starting your hike early in the morning or planning your visit for a weekday. This will also increase your chances of securing a parking spot.

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